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Old 01-22-2007, 02:58 AM   #1
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Clip of Eddie playing from 1/19/07



Very recent. Perhaps he is getting ready for the tour?
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Re: Clip of Eddie playing from 1/19/07

Good clip - just a simple showcase and he's still able to flash every single trick in the book very effortlessly. Looks a bit worn but hey, can't really blame him for that when thinking of what he's been through in recent years.
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Re: Clip of Eddie playing from 1/19/07

Wolfie might want to think about starting his own band.
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Re: Clip of Eddie playing from 1/19/07

I don't know that much about Van Halen but is Eddie smoking a cigarette in these clips? Didn't he have cancer recently?

Would have thought he would have given those up.
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Re: Clip of Eddie playing from 1/19/07

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I don't know that much about Van Halen but is Eddie smoking a cigarette in these clips? Didn't he have cancer recently?

Would have thought he would have given those up.

Yep. On his tounge. He went on Howard Stern and claimed the cancer he had had nothing to do with smoking.

The guy's off his nut.
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Re: Clip of Eddie playing from 1/19/07

Watched the clips MP, yep he is tore down. That's why I hope Wolfie gets his own thing going instead of climbing aboard the impending Van Halen trainwreck '07 world tour.
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That was so damn difficult to watch! He's the same guy who considered David Lee Roth embarrasing?? This guy is tanked! Here let me elaborate!





Not only wasted,but wait until he hits his head on the microphone attempting to take a bow. You can hear the attendees "LAUGHING" at him....this makes me sad..it really does!
I agree with MP...that was difficult to watch...

I don't know if Eddie was drunk or whacked out on something else?

seriously, I think Eddie needs rehab...before something bad happens...

You know, I wonder what Alex Van Halen thinks of Eddie and all this?....because he seems to be quiet about everything....hopefully, as a concerned brother, Alex could talk to Eddie, and get Eddie the help he needs....

I wonder if Michael Anthony said something about Eddie seeking some sort of help, and that's why they don't get along?

forget a Van Halen reunion...Eddie needs HELP....fast...

and that video clip of Eddie playing guitar?...
Eddie didn't look to sure of himself, and looks like he couldn't play a whole song, and all he could manage was a few old tricks....in my opinion....it's pretty sad.

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I don't know that much about Van Halen but is Eddie smoking a cigarette in these clips? Didn't he have cancer recently?

Would have thought he would have given those up.
I agree....having cancer once....is one too many times...and just proves to me Eddie is out of hand...and he needs some sort of help...

I just say all this as a concerned fan of Eddie and a fan of Van Halen as a band.
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Re: Clip of Eddie playing from 1/19/07

Drunk.. High, Happy, smoked, whatever he is.. He can kick my ass on the guitar..
But yea that was a little painful to watch.. But I hope it was just nerves at first cause he kinda got into a groove towards the end..
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Re: Clip of Eddie playing from 1/19/07

That was at NAMM. I went to the show, but I missed this presentation, which I had no problem watching. A good friend of mine was up front and said Eddie was on fire.

The only problem Eddie has is that he's over 50 and had cancer. That's going to take its toll on anyone. I agree he shouldn't be smoking and drinking, but it's his life and he can do whatever the hell he wants. All in all, I think his guitar playing, as demonstrated here, is still as good as ever.

Some folks really need to lighten up on the Eddie bashing. The only help he could use right now is support, not pity. At least, he's out there, trying to get back in the game. What's the alternative? staying holed up and out of the limelight? if anything, this shows Eddie still wants to make music.
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That was at NAMM. I went to the show, but I missed this presentation, which I had no problem watching. A good friend of mine was up front and said Eddie was on fire.

The only problem Eddie has is that he's over 50 and had cancer. That's going to take its toll on anyone. I agree he shouldn't be smoking and drinking, but it's his life and he can do whatever the hell he wants. All in all, I think his guitar playing, as demonstrated here, is still as good as ever.

Some folks really need to lighten up on the Eddie bashing. The only help he could use right now is support, not pity. At least, he's out there, trying to get back in the game. What's the alternative? staying holed up and out of the limelight? if anything, this shows Eddie still wants to make music.
You know.. I totally think this deserves props. Eddie isn't a youngster anymore.. This is what he does best..(Playing Guitar) Originality.. This guy is just doing what he has done so many times on stage..
I for one understand that this could be just what it's like when you get carried away in a world that you get sucked into.. he's not the first musician to get too messed up and tried to make a come back. hell some guys just OD and die and become legends that way. I think it's great that he can get up on stage and focus on what his true talent is.. Playing awesome guitar.
good comments Phantastico..
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That was at NAMM. I went to the show, but I missed this presentation, which I had no problem watching. A good friend of mine was up front and said Eddie was on fire.

The only problem Eddie has is that he's over 50 and had cancer. That's going to take its toll on anyone. I agree he shouldn't be smoking and drinking, but it's his life and he can do whatever the hell he wants. All in all, I think his guitar playing, as demonstrated here, is still as good as ever.

Some folks really need to lighten up on the Eddie bashing. The only help he could use right now is support, not pity. At least, he's out there, trying to get back in the game. What's the alternative? staying holed up and out of the limelight? if anything, this shows Eddie still wants to make music.
You know.. I totally think this deserves props. Eddie isn't a youngster anymore.. This is what he does best..(Playing Guitar) Originality.. This guy is just doing what he has done so many times on stage..
I for one understand that this could be just what it's like when you get carried away in a world that you get sucked into.. he's not the first musician to get too messed up and tried to make a come back. hell some guys just OD and die and become legends that way. I think it's great that he can get up on stage and focus on what his true talent is.. Playing awesome guitar.
good comments Phantastico..
Thanks Slip.

EVH showed up at NAMM two or three years ago and could barely hold a guitar. All things considered, I'd say he's come a long way.

His voice is a little raspier, but he's always had a raspy, gravelly voice. If he was drunk or wasted, do you honestly think Fender would let him go out on stage and play? They have a lot of money and resources invested in their new line of EVH guitars, and they wouldn't risk embarrassing Eddie and themselves if he wasn't up to the task. From what I heard at the show, the crowd loved him.

I couldn't access the videos MP posted, so I can't comment on those.

Wow, he hit his head on a microphone stand? Gee, I guess he's actually human!

I'm not sure what everyone is expecting from Eddie Van Halen? What the hell are Alex or Wolfie supposed to do? Tie him down and throw him into an insane asylum? Yeah, that will make things better...

Just because he beat cancer doesn't mean he's going to be the same. Cancer is a vicious and deteriorating disease. Unless you're in top physical shape like Lance Armstrong, it's going to kick your ass. in fact, it's very likely that the type of cancer Eddie had could come back and kill him.

My father died from cancer of the tongue. Even when we thought he was on the mend, we knew he'd never be the same. The same goes for Eddie. He's not going to be running in any marathons any time soon, but at least he can still play. The man is going to die with a guitar in his hands. We should all be that lucky.
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Re: Clip of Eddie playing from 1/19/07

It looks like the user pulled the videos before I could watch them.
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I WILL NOT get into a debate here but I have been in enough bands to know when someone is LIT or SICK! The man was lit...
We don't have to debate, but since when is someone who's been in a lot of bands a qualified medical professional?

What exactly kind of HELP does Eddie need?

What exactly do you think Eddie is ON?

Did the possibility that he might be on a few painkillers cross your mind?

I'm sure Eddie endured a lot of pain when he went through chemotherapy. Although there have been significant improvements in chemotherapy and surgical techniques, people with oral cancer often have secondary tumors and suffer from other maladies, including constant pain.

Like I said, I know someone who sat about 10 feet away from Eddie on Friday night. He told me Eddie was different, but still on the mark.

All I'm saying is think about what you're saying. Rumors are rampant that Eddie is some crazy lunatic druggy who needs help. And yet, he's been in the studio, working with Fender on a new line of guitars, and even brought his own son into his band. Don't you think that someone -- maybe Valerie Bertinelli or Alex Van Halen -- would have stepped up and said something about Eddie's so-called "craziness" if he posed any kind of danger to himself, his family, or friends? No publicist is slick enough to hide that sort of thing.

I admit Eddie is not the same Eddie you and I grew up with. If anything, he's probably on some sort of medication.

But to say he's fucked up, out of his mind, embarrassing, and in need of serious help is nothing more than a lot of superficial speculation without a speck of factual backing.

If fans are going to turn their backs on Eddie when he needs them the most, then one has to wonder who's more fucked up: Eddie Van Halen or the phonies who call themselves his fans.
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But to say he's fucked up, out of his mind, embarrassing, and in need of serious help is nothing more than a lot of superficial speculation without a speck of factual backing.


So is Pain Meds...

I stick with my gut instinct on this one..it hasn't failed me yet..


and I never said for sure if it was alcohol or drugs...I said he was lit. If you end up being correct about the pain meds ( I doubt it)....then I still come out right. He was lit!

...and Paula Abdul was only "sleepy"....

So if you're right, then what? Should Eddie give up the guitar and lock himself in a closet?
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But to say he's fucked up, out of his mind, embarrassing, and in need of serious help is nothing more than a lot of superficial speculation without a speck of factual backing.


So is Pain Meds...

I stick with my gut instinct on this one..it hasn't failed me yet..


and I never said for sure if it was alcohol or drugs...I said he was lit. If you end up being correct about the pain meds ( I doubt it)....then I still come out right. He was lit!

...and Paula Abdul was only "sleepy"....

So if you're right, then what? Should Eddie give up the guitar and lock himself in a closet?
No ! Lock the guitar in the closet...go to rehab..get well....go back to playing....
I think it's a little more complicated than that. I've yet to see one comment from you about the fact that the guy had cancer. Going to rehab could very well kill him, especially if he's in chronic pain.

And again, I ask:

If he's in dire need of rehab, then why isn't someone stepping up and sending him there?

Why is he allowed to be around his son if he's a raving drug addict?
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You're not gonna change my mind...but EDDIE does need help and needs to help himself and fix this band problem if he REALLY still wants to play.
I'm not trying to change your mind. I'm just saying that, as a fan, you should cut him a little slack and remember he had cancer. If he's on something he shouldn't be on, it will catch up with him sooner or later.

As for his conflicts with others, I could really care less. That's for the tabloids. I'm not interested in becoming his pal; I just want to hear him play guitar...
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Re: Clip of Eddie playing from 1/19/07

I'm with you all the way here Phantastico - great comments, imo. I was starting to get a little worried that maybe I missed something in the clip so glad to see you agree.

As I said initially - no matter if or what he may or may not be on, funny stuff or painkillers or nothing?! he still manages to do every trick in the book in a 5m presentation.

Oh... could also be that the guy's simply nervous as feck. Oh but how can that be with a guy who's played in front of millions? Again, he's been through a lot since last he was on a stage.
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Re: Clip of Eddie playing from 1/19/07

Here's a little info on the cancer scare.

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During the late 1990s Van Halen was treated twice for tongue and mouth cancer. During an interview with Howard Stern on Sirius satellite radio channel 100 on September 8, 2006, Eddie claimed that holding a metal pick in his mouth 12-14 hours per day while immersed in the electromagnetic radiation of his music studio caused his tongue cancer (despite this seeming scientifically unlikely). He said he continues to smoke because "cigarettes didn't cause the cancer"[12].

Eddie also revealed that he stopped the cancer via an illegal method (the nature of which he declined to specify) in conjunction with a pharmaceutical lab with which he's affiliated in New York state. He said a portion of his tongue was removed and experimented on, and then the technique was performed on him. He said he has lost one third of his tongue, though his speech sounds virtually unaffected. Despite his battles with oral cancer, Eddie has been photographed in public as recently as July 2006 smoking cigarettes.[13]

My only comment is where is the music? He was healthy enough to do a greatest hits tour with Hagar, but not enough to cut some tracks? How hard is to find a singer in LA? The only material he has put out since III is a couple of mediocre instumental tracks for a porno soundtrack.
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