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Foxhound 01-17-2019 02:56 PM

Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
While fifty year anniversaries may seem to be a tremendous achievement for most bands (and people in general), to the Rolling Stones fifty years is much too pedestrian a benchmark to be meaningful. By 1964 the Stones were really rolling and here is a list of big 55th anniversaries to which fans of the band and music historians can look forward this year:

January 17 - Release of their first EP:

February - Release of Not Fade Away which reached #3 on the U.K. charts thus becoming their first top ten hit in the U.K.

April 16 - Release of The Rolling Stones their first LP in the U.K.

May 30 - Release of the same LP with the title expanded to The Rolling Stones (England's Newest Hitmakers) in the U.S.A.

June - Release of It's All Over Now the Stones' first #1 hit in the U.K.

June 3 - The Stones appear on Hollywood Palace hosted by Dean Martin, their first American television appearance:

June 5 - The Stones kick off their first American concert tour with a show in San Bernardino, California. They open with Not Fade Away and the set includes the rarely heard Beautiful Delilah number:

June 20 - The tour comes to an end with two shows at Carnegie Hall in New York.

September - Release of Time Is on My Side which reached #6 on the U.S. Billboard chart thus becoming their first top ten hit in the States.

October 25 - The Stones first appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show:

Following the show Ed Sullivan reputedly said “I promise you they’ll never be back on our show. It took me seventeen years to build this show and I’m not going to have it destroyed in a matter of weeks.” But after having a chance to look at the ratings he sent the Stones this message "Received hundreds of letters from parents complaining about you, but thousands from teenagers saying how much they enjoyed your performance."

October 29 - The Stones appear on the T.A.M.I. Show concert film:


hodad 01-20-2019 12:40 PM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
Ed Sullivan was a square. Didn't know talent if it hit him in the face.

Foxhound 01-25-2019 12:26 PM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
So speaking of 50+ year anniversaries, The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus was filmed just over fifty years ago on 11 December 1968. The production was originally conceived by Mick Jagger as a concert show to be aired on the BBC to promote sales of the Stones' new Beggars Banquet LP. Performers included the Who, Jethro Tull, Taj Mahal, Marianne Faithfull plus a "super" (disaster?) group called the Dirty Mac consisting of John Lennon (guitar & vocals), Eric Clapton (lead guitar), Keith Richards (bass), Mitch Mitchell (drums) and Yoko Ono (shrieks). The Stones had evidently considered Led Zeppelin for a part in the show but decided that Jethro Tull would be a more interesting act. The Stones were to be the closing act.

Filming started at 2:00 PM. The Who performed early on and they were tight, energetic and simply great overall. Nothing about the production went as smoothly as hoped though. Everything took much longer than expected and the Stones accompanied by pianist Nicky Hopkins didn't get to play until 5:00 AM the next morning. By this time the studio audience was exhausted and just wanted the show to end. While Mick Jagger seemed able to continue on nervous energy, the other Stones were dead tired and Brian Jones in particular was zonked out and barely conscious. Moreover they hadn't played live since finishing up their European concert tour in the spring of 1967. The Stones didn't think their performance overall was up to par, especially compared to that of the Who.

The Stones therefore shelved the project. The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus didn't see the light of day until October 1996 when it was released as a historical document on video and as a CD. Here's the track list:

1. "Mick Jagger's introduction of Rock and Roll Circus" 0:25
2. "Entry of the Gladiators" (Julius Fučík) 0:55
3. "Mick Jagger's introduction of Jethro Tull" 0:11
4. "A Song for Jeffrey†" (Ian Anderson) Jethro Tull 3:26
5. "Keith Richards' introduction of The Who" 0:07
6. "A Quick One, While He's Away" (Pete Townshend) The Who 7:33
7. "Over the Waves" (Juventino Rosas) 0:45
8. "Ain't That a Lot of Love" (Homer Banks, Willie Dean "Deanie" Parker) Taj Mahal 3:48
9. "Charlie Watts' introduction of Marianne Faithfull" 0:06
10. "Something Better" (Gerry Goffin, Barry Mann) Marianne Faithfull 2:32
11. "Mick Jagger's and John Lennon's introduction of The Dirty Mac" 1:05
12. "Yer Blues" (Lennon–McCartney) The Dirty Mac 4:27
13. "Whole Lotta Yoko" (Yoko Ono) The Dirty Mac, Yoko Ono, and Ivry Gitlis 4:49
14. "John Lennon's introduction of The Rolling Stones/Jumpin' Jack Flash" The Rolling Stones 3:35
15. "Parachute Woman" The Rolling Stones 2:59
16. "No Expectations" The Rolling Stones 4:13
17. "You Can't Always Get What You Want" The Rolling Stones 4:24
18. "Sympathy for the Devil" The Rolling Stones 8:49
19. "Salt of the Earth" The Rolling Stones 4:57

The Stones evidently also performed Confessin' the Blues and Route 66 on stage that morning but these numbers didn't find their way onto the 1996 release.


Foxhound 02-15-2020 03:09 PM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
So I wasn't able to peck in a couple of posts here while the board was down from mid-October to early December. It's time now to catch up!

It was nearly fifty years ago on November 23rd during their late 1969 concert tour of the United States that the Rolling Stones made their final appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show.

Evidently their "appearance" was something of a fraud though:


Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Gimme Shelter opened the show. The show closed with Love in Vain and Honky Tonk Women. The band mimed to prerecorded tracks and Jagger sang live. The performance was recorded at the CBS studios in Los Angeles and edited into the show to appear like they were in New York.

Nonetheless, here are clips of a couple of the songs they performed:

Incidentally it was during this tour that the Stones started billing themselves as "The greatest rock and roll band in the world!", a title first bestowed on the band by tour manager Sam Cutler at their concert in London's Hyde Park the previous July. Rock critic Robert Christgau would a few years later label this tour as "history's first mythic rock and roll tour".


Foxhound 04-23-2020 11:45 PM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
The Stones are still at it! Here's their very timely new single released earlier today:

I really like it! It's both bluesy and funky. Good harp too.


Foxhound 05-18-2020 11:38 AM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
This ALOK remix of Living in a Ghost Town was released late last week and it's absolutely dreadful!

Uggghhhh!!!! Unbelievably bad. Talk about destroying a good song.


Foxhound 06-15-2020 11:58 PM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
An unreleased gem(?) by the Stones from 1964:


dr wu 06-16-2020 10:02 AM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?

Originally Posted by Foxhound (Post 1291871)
An unreleased gem(?) by the Stones from 1964:


More like the Stones effing around in the studio at Andrew Oldham's expense...


Foxhound 07-19-2020 05:12 PM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
One of my very favourite pictures of the Rolling Stones is from the rear sleeve of the Got Live if You Want It! LP:


Foxhound 06-02-2021 04:48 PM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
So Charlie Watts turned eighty today!


Foxhound 06-06-2021 10:54 AM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
Well sort of. Their first concert with the classic lineup of Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Brian Jones, Bill Wyman and Charlie Watts didn't take place until January 1963:


Originally Posted by Ultimate Classic Rock
Even though the Rolling Stones publicly celebrated a 50th anniversary in 2012, guitarist Keith Richards says the band members themselves count January 1963 as the real beginning. That's the month Charlie Watts officially joined.

A mainstay ever since, Watts became one of the best-known drummers in rock music history. Ironically, though, his background was primarily in jazz before a chance meeting with British blues pioneer Alexis Korner. Watts was working as a graphic designer for an ad company when he accepted Korner's offer to play with Blues Incorporated, a London-based group that had also featured occasional appearances from an aspiring young singer named Mick Jagger. Watts met Jagger and the other members of the fledgling Rolling Stones in mid-1962, and completed their lineup by joining on Jan. 9, 1963.

Watts played his first gig with the Stones a few days later on Jan. 12, 1963, at the Ealing Blues Club in a six-piece lineup that included pianist Ian Stewart.

The Day Charlie Watts Joined - Ultimate Classic Rock

Getting Charlie Watts to join was a real coup for the Stones at the time since he already was a well regarded professional drummer while they were just a bunch of aspiring young blues rock musicians like so many others in the U.K. in early 1963.

Hopefully the Stones release the LP on which they've been working for more than a decade some time within the next eighteen months and play a few concerts in 2023 to celebrate their sixtieth anniversary.


Foxhound 06-08-2021 11:46 PM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
A good early video of the Stones on the Red Skelton Show:


Foxhound 08-26-2021 12:37 AM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
R.I.P. Charlie Watts (2 June 1941 - 24 August 2021)

Born in London, England, Charlie Watts learned to drum by playing along to jazz records. In 1961 he joined Alexis Korner's Blues Incorporated which performed regularly in London's rhythm & blues clubs. As such he was already a well established and highly regarded drummer when he first met aspiring young rhythm & blues musicians Brian Jones, Ian Stewart, Mick Jagger, Keith Richards and Dick Taylor in mid-1962 who had no drummer of their own. Charlie Watts was of course not interested in joining their ragtag ensemble which didn't even have a name yet. He must though have seen some potential in Brian Jones and the others because he did eventually consent to join their group which by then was called the Rolling Stones. It's been widely reported that Jones, Jagger, Richards, Stewart, bassist Bill Wyman (who'd joined in early December replacing Dick Taylor who had gone back to school) and Watts played their first gig together on 1 January 1963 at the Station Hotel in the London suburb of Richmond. Wikipedia though states that Watts didn't agree to join the Stones until February. Nonetheless the rest is history. With the Stones Charlie went from this:

To this:

And finally to this:

When it came to drumming, Charlie Watts was a minimalist. As such he was an efficiency expert and drummed with an economy of motion unlike some well known contemporaries (e.g. Keith Moon who flailed away most energetically). He also suffered from no compulsion to habitually hit his drums as hard as he could unlike some other famous drummers (e.g. John Bonham). Neither was he compelled to set himself up behind as much of an array of drums as would fit on stage to show off his mastery of the art as do so many modern drummers (e.g. Neil Peart, Terry Bozzio, Phil Collins). He brought along only and precisely those drums and cymbals he needed to keep the beat for the set that his band was going to play.

And that's exactly what he did. He kept the beat for the World's Greatest Rock & Roll Band for more than 58 years. He knew what to play to bring out the best in each Stones' tune and more importantly he knew what NOT to play. Charlie Watts was integral to the sound of the Stones and there's no way they would have sounded as good without the way in which he laid down the beat.

Here was Charlie Watts circa 1966:

And fairly recently:

I was so hoping that the three originals plus the "new" guy Ron Wood would make it to 1 January 2023 for a proper 60th anniversary concert. Whether the Stones can continue without him is in doubt. R.I.P Charlie.


Foxhound 10-02-2021 09:38 AM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
Mick Jagger 'Went Unnoticed' at a North Carolina Dive Bar

Keeping it real at the Thirsty Beaver in the face of modern urban encroachment:

No wonder Mick went there. I mean how could you not?


Foxhound 01-17-2022 09:08 PM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
Interesting that Brown Sugar which the Rolling Stones dropped from their concert setlists for their autumn 2021 tour of the States is still the song they've played the second most in concert:

Setlist Totals - Rolling Stones

What interests me more than the top songs though is the ones they've played a dozen times or less right at the bottom of the list. Some of those are the ones I'd now request.


Foxhound 03-06-2022 11:36 PM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?

Interesting! Between the Buttons is one of my favourite Stones' LPs.


Foxhound 04-02-2022 10:01 PM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
An unreleased track by the Stones from a whopping 58 years ago!


Foxhound 08-04-2022 11:06 PM

Re: Fifty years? What's fifty years to the Rolling Stones?
Hey! ABKCO just posted the original Jumpin' Jack Flash video on Youtube!

Finally! Moreover ABKCO also added this long lost smoking hot alternate take:


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