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Foxhound 12-17-2020 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dr wu (Post 1296713)
btw..just curious are you as old as me...? You don't have your age listed ;)

I was born in April 1952.

:smile:

dr wu 12-24-2020 11:40 AM

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So then, you are just a youngster... ;)
It's hell to get old......isn't it?

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year....such as it is.

Foxhound 12-24-2020 04:53 PM

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Me I'm not old yet. I'm still full of fire and vinegar.

;)

dr wu 12-25-2020 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxhound (Post 1296843)
Me I'm not old yet. I'm still full of fire and vinegar.

;)

That's 'piss and vinegar'....
:lol:

dr wu 01-19-2021 01:36 PM

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One of my favorite lesser known prog bands....


dwill123 02-05-2021 07:12 AM

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2021 is shaping up to be a good year. We have a new vaccine for the coronavirus. The U.S. has a new President and today (2/5/2021) Transatlantic releases their new album. Keep it up 2021.


dr wu 02-05-2021 11:35 AM

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Like Transatlantic....have the first 3 but never got Kaleidoscope but I'll ck out new one .

Foxhound 02-06-2021 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dr wu (Post 1297927)
I do like some 'modern rock' when someone (friends and family) mentions them to me but I don't pay attention to that area. I do keep track of new prog like Porcupine Tree , Opeth, Motorpsycho, Wobbler, etc.

This is the first time I've heard, or at least paused and noticed, the term "new prog". You don't consider the music of any of the following bands to be "new prog" then?

U2
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Pearl Jam
Soundgarden
Foo Fighters
Radiohead
Decemberists
Modest Mouse
Super Furry Animals
Fleet Foxes
Arcade Fire

In truth, I'm not even sure where the dividing line for "old prog" relative to other bands is drawn.

:scratch:

dr wu 02-06-2021 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxhound (Post 1297938)
This is the first time I've heard, or at least paused and noticed, the term "new prog". You don't consider the music of any of the following bands to be "new prog" then?

U2
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Pearl Jam
Soundgarden
Foo Fighters
Radiohead
Decemberists
Modest Mouse
Super Furry Animals
Fleet Foxes
Arcade Fire

In truth, I'm not even sure where the dividing line for "old prog" relative to other bands is drawn.

:scratch:

Radiohead are considered crossover prog ,The Decemberists are called prog folk, and Super Furry Animals are called prog related.
This is how Prog Rock Archives classifies them for the web site listings. None of the other bands are considered prog rock by most prog fans , prog web sites, and those interested in such things.

This is subjective of course and to me none of those bands are what I consider true progressive rock but many have elements of being more than just traditional rock bands in some of their music...especially Radiohead from above.
The problem is that many bands have a sound that straddles the lines of music styles.
New prog isn't really a category per se...it just refers to modern bands of the last 20 or 25 years that fall into the prog area. There is an actual category called 'Neo-prog' which refers to bands like Mariilion, IQ, Pendragon, Arena, Magenta, etc ...it gets...complicated. I find much of the style naming to be arbitrary at times but it is what it is. :ohwell:

Foxhound 02-06-2021 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dr wu (Post 1297940)
Radiohead are considered crossover prog ,The Decemberists are called prog folk, and Super Furry Animals are called prog related. This is how Prog Rock Archives classifies them for the web site listings.

There is an actual category called 'Neo-prog' which refers to bands like Mariilion, IQ, Pendragon, Arena, Magenta, etc....

:bonk:

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Originally Posted by dr wu (Post 1297940)
This is subjective of course.... The problem is that many bands have a sound that straddles the lines of music styles.

it gets...complicated. I find much of the style naming to be arbitrary at times but it is what it is. :ohwell:

Precisely. All this categorization is bewildering. It's all album oriented rock to me, and if it's over twenty years old then it becomes classic rock. Some I like, and some I don't.

:dunno:

dr wu 02-06-2021 05:47 PM

Re: Progressive Rock...?
 
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Originally Posted by Foxhound (Post 1297943)
:bonk:



Precisely. All this categorization is bewildering. It's all album oriented rock to me, and if it's over twenty years old then it becomes classic rock. Some I like, and some I don't.

:dunno:

Well....the classification is important to many prog rock fans.
There are several threads at Prog Archives that are all about categories and where to place certain bands. Whatever floats your boat. I think a few prog categories are fine when discussing styles and what certain bands sound like because people want to listen and buy certain types of prog withpout having to sift through all the bands...and there are a lot. I get it but to me there are too many categories. It's an impressive web site and even some known prog musicians have come by to chat from time to time. The data base is great if one wants to look up a band.
At any rate it makes for some spirited discussions as you can imagine.

dr wu 02-16-2021 04:13 PM

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A popular obscure prog fusion band....my favorite one by them...


Foxhound 02-16-2021 11:49 PM

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Hmmmm. It's really jazzy.

:dunno:

dr wu 02-17-2021 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxhound (Post 1298342)
Hmmmm. It's really jazzy.

:dunno:

Glad you like it.....or are you confused..? ;)
Many of the fusion bands are considered prog and get dumped into jazz fusion prog.
One of my favorite things by a well known jazz man who recently passed away. RIP Mr Corea.



If you are interested this page at Prog Archives explains jazz-fusion and it's relation to prog rock.
https://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=30

dwill123 02-17-2021 12:11 PM

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^^RTF is one of my favorites also. I saw this version of RTF (Corea, Clarke, White & Connors) right after the release of this album. They were at then Trenton State College in NJ (1973). They opened for Electric Light Orchestra. Good show.

dr wu 02-17-2021 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dwill123 (Post 1298355)
^^RTF is one of my favorites also. I saw this version of RTF (Corea, Clarke, White & Connors) right after the release of this album. They were at then Trenton State College in NJ (1973). They opened for Electric Light Orchestra. Good show.

Never had a chance to see them though I did see Mahavishnu at their height right after the second lp.
See you around PA. :thumbsup:


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