Originally Posted by Foxhound (Post 1290447)

"Always" is a long time. Like I say, I very clearly remember a popular DJ in southwestern Ontario using the term "progressive rock" to refer to the album oriented rock that had developed by 1968-69 before the art rock bands of the 1970's existed.

Originally Posted by Album-Oriented Rock (Wikipedia)

By 1970 many of the stations were moving to institute programming rules with a "clock" and system of "rotation". With this shift, stations' formats in the early 1970s were now billed as progressive. DJs still had much input over the music they played, and the selection was deep and eclectic, ranging from folk to hard rock with other styles such as jazz fusion occasionally thrown in.

In October 1971, WPLJ in New York began to shift its free-form progressive rock format into a more tightly formatted hit oriented rock format, similar to what would later become known as album-oriented rock. WPLJ's parent company ABC installed similar formats on all of its FM stations including KLOS in Los Angeles and WRIF in Detroit. In 1973 Lee Abrams, formerly at WRIF, successfully installed a similar format, later known as SuperStars, at WQDR in Raleigh, North Carolina.

In 1972, Ron Jacobs, program director at KGB-FM in San Diego, began using detailed listener research and expanded playlists in shifting the top 40 station towards a progressive rock format. Meanwhile, at competing station KPRI, program director Mike Harrison was similarly applying top 40 concepts to the progressive format which he dubbed "album-oriented rock."

Originally Posted by dr wu (Post 1296709)

I was around then..started college in 69...no one I knew in college used the term prog rock then ...i don't really recall hearing it until the early to mid 70's.

Originally Posted by Foxhound (Post 1296710)

You would not have heard any references to "prog" in 1969. The term "progressive rock" hadn't yet been abbreviated to "prog" nor had the meaning been more narrowly constrained to refer only to bands similar to this "Big 6".

:smile:

Originally Posted by dr wu (Post 1296713)

btw..just curious are you as old as me...? You don't have your age listed ;)

Originally Posted by Foxhound (Post 1296843)

Me I'm not old yet. I'm still full of fire and vinegar.

;)

Originally Posted by dr wu (Post 1297927)

I do like some 'modern rock' when someone (friends and family) mentions them to me but I don't pay attention to that area. I do keep track of new prog like Porcupine Tree , Opeth, Motorpsycho, Wobbler, etc.

Originally Posted by Foxhound (Post 1297938)

This is the first time I've heard, or at least paused and noticed, the term "new prog". You don't consider the music of any of the following bands to be "new prog" then?

U2
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Pearl Jam
Soundgarden
Foo Fighters
Radiohead
Decemberists
Modest Mouse
Super Furry Animals
Fleet Foxes
Arcade Fire

In truth, I'm not even sure where the dividing line for "old prog" relative to other bands is drawn.

:scratch:

Originally Posted by dr wu (Post 1297940)

Radiohead are considered crossover prog ,The Decemberists are called prog folk, and Super Furry Animals are called prog related. This is how Prog Rock Archives classifies them for the web site listings.

There is an actual category called 'Neo-prog' which refers to bands like Mariilion, IQ, Pendragon, Arena, Magenta, etc....

Originally Posted by dr wu (Post 1297940)

This is subjective of course.... The problem is that many bands have a sound that straddles the lines of music styles.

it gets...complicated. I find much of the style naming to be arbitrary at times but it is what it is. :ohwell:

Originally Posted by Foxhound (Post 1297943)

:bonk:



Precisely. All this categorization is bewildering. It's all album oriented rock to me, and if it's over twenty years old then it becomes classic rock. Some I like, and some I don't.

:dunno:

Originally Posted by Foxhound (Post 1298342)

Hmmmm. It's really jazzy.

:dunno:

Originally Posted by dwill123 (Post 1298355)

^^RTF is one of my favorites also. I saw this version of RTF (Corea, Clarke, White & Connors) right after the release of this album. They were at then Trenton State College in NJ (1973). They opened for Electric Light Orchestra. Good show.