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View Poll Results: Should the Rolling Stones continue to tour?
I was an avid Stones fan prior to 1980 and I want them to keep touring. 15 36.59%
I was an avid Stones fan prior to 1980 but it's ridiculous for them to continue touring. 8 19.51%
I've never been much of a Stones fan but I'm happy with them continuing to tour. 3 7.32%
I've never been much of a Stones fan and it's ridiculous for them to continue to tour. 2 4.88%
I'm too young to have been a fan prior to 1980 but I'm happy with them continuing to tour. 13 31.71%
I'm too young to have been a fan prior to 1980. It's ridiculous for them to continue to tour. 0 0%
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Old 06-06-2008, 03:06 AM   #37
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Re: Should the Rolling Stones continue to tour? Is it a generation dependent question

And Skynyrd still has...wait a minute they are missing 98% of the band.
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If the Stones was to get a new lead singer,if something happened to Mick (quit or died)
Only they wouldn't be The Rolling Stones without either Mick or Keith.
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If the Stones was to get a new lead singer,if something happened to Mick (quit or died) I'm sure there would be enough people to go see them.
I respectfully disagree.


If Mick Jagger dies or quits, the Rolling Stones are done.
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:10 PM   #40
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Re: Should the Rolling Stones continue to tour? Is it a generation dependent question?

I'd go see The Stones with a new singer. But I wouldn't pay top dollar for it. Heck, I wouldn't pay top dollar to see The Stones with Mick a 2nd time. I loved the show, I'd see them again, but not for that much (not even with somebody else's money unless they insisted).

It makes me feel "dirty" but I don't give a sh*t if bands want to lose all of their quintessential members and then still tour. On the one hand It'd probably make a lot more "sense" if Alvin Lee toured as Ten Years After rather than Ten Years After touring as Alvin Lee, and you could say the same about other bands who are doing this. But I think it's great that bands can openly bask in former glory, because I'm more than thrilled to bask with them. I'm just hoping that the trend isn't going to stop yet, because I'm waiting for Pantera and Nirvana to tour. And Led Zeppelin, but that goes without saying.

My question is... where did this trend come from? I mean, I'm aware of older examples such as Hank Williams Jr. (if that movie I saw was accurate), but who kicked it off for Classic Rock? Who was the first HUGE rock band to tour missing a HUGE member? I'd say The Who, but a drummer doesn't really count. No matter what you have to say about Keith Moon, the majority of the public only looks at the band's flashy leaders. Would Pink Floyd constitute the first huge classic rock band to carry on without one of the top 1 or 2 most visible members?
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Old 06-08-2008, 03:00 PM   #41
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Re: Should the Rolling Stones continue to tour? Is it a generation dependent question?

The Doors made a go at it without Morrison around 71-ish... not sure if they performed live, though.
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Old 06-08-2008, 03:58 PM   #42
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Re: Should the Rolling Stones continue to tour? Is it a generation dependent question?

the rolling stones were practically done when brian jones died.

i'd like to see them now, but i'm sure as hell not paying $400 to see keith richards decompose as he plays. they're recent performances really aren't worth anymore than 40 or 50 bucks.
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I'd go see The Stones with a new singer. But I wouldn't pay top dollar for it. Heck, I wouldn't pay top dollar to see The Stones with Mick a 2nd time. I loved the show, I'd see them again, but not for that much (not even with somebody else's money unless they insisted).

It makes me feel "dirty" but I don't give a sh*t if bands want to lose all of their quintessential members and then still tour. On the one hand It'd probably make a lot more "sense" if Alvin Lee toured as Ten Years After rather than Ten Years After touring as Alvin Lee, and you could say the same about other bands who are doing this. But I think it's great that bands can openly bask in former glory, because I'm more than thrilled to bask with them. I'm just hoping that the trend isn't going to stop yet, because I'm waiting for Pantera and Nirvana to tour. And Led Zeppelin, but that goes without saying.

My question is... where did this trend come from? I mean, I'm aware of older examples such as Hank Williams Jr. (if that movie I saw was accurate), but who kicked it off for Classic Rock? Who was the first HUGE rock band to tour missing a HUGE member? I'd say The Who, but a drummer doesn't really count. No matter what you have to say about Keith Moon, the majority of the public only looks at the band's flashy leaders. Would Pink Floyd constitute the first huge classic rock band to carry on without one of the top 1 or 2 most visible members?

Maybe AC/DC after Bon Scott died.
Skynyrd got back together but they waited 10 years after the plane crash.They reunited in 1987
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AC/DC after Bon Scott died
Best example there. Different band because of it,but still just as popular without the classic singer...

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The Doors made a go at it without Morrison around 71-ish... not sure if they performed live, though.
They sure did NOW in the 2000's also, with Ian Asbury...people bought tickets...

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I'd go see The Stones with a new singer.
My point...whether right or wrong....
Yeah It rarely happens like in Ac/Dc !

I think it depends on the line=up and the thing i Harp about in nearly every thread

DYNAMICS..if it's a band that members have so completely fused their personality into the music..I firmly believe they can NOT be replaced..sure it's done but with out integrity...i don't support it !

Bands who imo CAN NOT replace members w/o f @ing up the bands core : The Beatles,The Who, The Kinks , The Rolling Stones (Mick or Keith..) , Kiss (sorry I'm loyal to Ace/Peter) The Doors(all due respect, Ian ain't no Jim Morrison!) The Cars(no Ric no Cars!)...

Somehow bands pull it off like QUEEN with Paul ? But it's rare ! Maybe because it was done with respect to Freddy not REPLACING him ?
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Re: Should the Rolling Stones continue to tour? Is it a generation dependent question?

If they want to continue touring and folks want to see them well I don't see anything wrong. I saw them in Feb 2003 at a small theatre here in Sydney and they were brilliant - paid $70 for the ticket.
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When a member comes in they become permanent as years go by and with each generation...like Ron Wood.
It's Ron Wood who precisely highlights the longevity of the Rolling Stones. He's been a Stone now for a third of a century yet he's still regarded as the new fellow by long time Stone fans!

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The Doors made a go at it without Morrison around 71-ish... not sure if they performed live, though.
They sure did NOW in the 2000's also, with Ian Asbury...people bought tickets...
Yeah, but... Deja asked what band was the first to go on/play live without their main 'person', I think... dunno if The Doors toured 'Other Voices' or whatever that album was called If they did they must have been the first band to do it.
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Methinks therefore that most of the criticism is not coming from longtime Stones fans, who seem quite happy to see the Stones continue to tour.
From the poll it looks like I called things completely opposite! It would appear that younger people have no objection to the Stones continuing to tour. It's some of the older fans who seem to prefer that the Stones retire gracefully. It's as if these older fans don't want their memories of the Stones in their prime to be tarnished by the shows of the older Stones of the present day.

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Re: Should the Rolling Stones continue to tour? Is it a generation dependent question?

Good point, flipflop! And I can't beleive I forgot that because I'm usually the dude reminding people about that... They released a new album just a couple of months after Jim died and then released another one after that.

And checking wikipedia, it seems they did indeed tour without Jim in the early 70s. So they must be the first. But they didn't have commercail success with it so I'm not sure they're the ones who popularized the trend.
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Good point, flipflop! And I can't beleive I forgot that because I'm usually the dude reminding people about that... They released a new album just a couple of months after Jim died and then released another one after that.

And checking wikipedia, it seems they did indeed tour without Jim in the early 70s. So they must be the first. But they didn't have commercail success with it so I'm not sure they're the ones who popularized the trend.
Duane Allman was the founder, undisputed leader, and the heart and soul of the Allman Brothers and a much bigger loss to music, IMO, than Jim Morrison or Janis Joplin. The ABB still went on to record some pretty good music without Duane.
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From the poll it looks like I called things completely opposite! It would appear that younger people have no objection to the Stones continuing to tour. It's some of the older fans who seem to prefer that the Stones retire gracefully. It's as if these older fans don't want their memories of the Stones in their prime to be tarnished by the shows of the older Stones of the present day.

I'm not terribly surprised that it shakes out that way, even though I'm somewhat at the "older" end of the spectrum. The fact is, the younger among us have never known a time when "rock stars" in general were young people - for them there has always been a contingent of old geezer rock stars. For people my age and older, we remember not only when these guys were in their 20's, but we also remember a long-ago time when it was vitually unthinkable that a person would continue to play rock'n'roll for a living at age 30, let alone 60. If you look back to the press of the 70's, you'll see that even when Some Girls was released there were plenty of sneering remarks about these old Rolling Stones guys who would soon be mounting the stage in wheelchairs.

There's not the same generational divide in place now that there was when I was young - that rock was for kids and no self-respecting adult would take it seriously. The kids of today have parents who more often than not have their own collections of rock music, and they probably don't understand that there was a time when this was virtually unthinkable. When I was a teenager, there were NO adults who liked rock. They all thought it was childish junk and they would tell you that to your face.

So, yeah, it's a generational thing, but it doesn't play out the way we expect.
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Question Re: Should the Rolling Stones continue to tour? Is it a generation dependent question

Well here it is now twelve years since I first raised the question and the Stones are still ready and willing to tour albeit temporarily (I hope) unable due to the pandemic.

But should they now use this involuntary hiatus to call it quits before the 60th anniversary of their touring history in 2023?

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Re: Should the Rolling Stones continue to tour? Is it a generation dependent question

For me they are long past their prime days ....I saw them in 1974 and it was a decent show...would have liked to see them a bit earlier.
I haven't bought a Stones lp in many years....last one I have is Some Girls. They are writing the same songs over and over but they aren't as good as the early tracks.
But if people want to pay to see them...more power to the Stones.
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