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View Poll Results: Was Jim Morrison burned out after "L.A. Woman"?
Yes. 18 36.73%
No. He and the rest of the Doors could have continued to record excellent albums. 31 63.27%
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:38 PM   #19
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Re: Was Jim Morrison burned out at the time of his death?

I don't think he was burned out creatively, although he may very well have been physically and emotionally. But IMO LA Woman is their best album other than their debut, so I've no reason to believe the Doors couldn't have produced more great music.
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Old 07-10-2008, 08:40 PM   #20
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Re: Was Jim Morrison burned out at the time of his death?

he sorta was washed up in my opinion but i think in this stage of his career/life his addictions were taking over him thus he was not writing as many good singles but i do beleive he could have madde a big inpact on music if drugs didnt control him
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:53 AM   #21
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Re: Was Jim Morrison burned out at the time of his death?

Excuse me, but I'm not sure he was an addict.
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Old 07-31-2008, 06:42 AM   #22
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It's an interesting thing. Sometimes I think - could somebody use drugs every day and make a career? A real addict can't cope with it.
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:07 AM   #23
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Re: Was Jim Morrison burned out at the time of his death?

I dunno. I thought his last two albums with The Doors were some of his strongest material.

Of course, his popularity was probably going to take a nosedive once people saw him with that huge beer gut and the grotesque beard. :P
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:01 AM   #24
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Re: Was Jim Morrison burned out at the time of his death?

Darn, I think he looks 100X better in the later days than in the earlier days. In the early days he looked awesome, but in the later days he looked like freakin' Hemmingway. It was so perfect.
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:43 AM   #25
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Re: Was Jim Morrison burned out at the time of his death?

I can't claim he never drink beer and smoke. But to be an addict and drunkard too is impossible for man who made such a great success.
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Old 07-31-2008, 09:57 AM   #26
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Re: Was Jim Morrison burned out at the time of his death?

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But to be an addict and drunkard too is impossible for man who made such a great success.

Morrison wasn't the first and he won't be the last.
There are plenty of high achievers who have
had overlapping booze and junk habits.
One example (who never quite hit Morrison's
heights before ODing in the desert):
Gram Parsons.
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Old 08-07-2008, 08:17 AM   #27
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It's very difficult to be a drunkard and an addict, when you have to sing in public every day. We have never seen an office worker or, for instance, driver, who use cocain and drink a bottle of whiskey every day and make a career.
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Old 08-07-2008, 08:53 AM   #28
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I always doubt anyone could cope with such incompatible things as addiction and carreer. I can assume that unacknowledged talent could lead such life, but not a man, who had to work hard.
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Old 08-07-2008, 09:05 AM   #29
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Re: Was Jim Morrison burned out at the time of his death?

I think there have probably been drivers and office workers who used cocaine and drank a bottle of whiskey every day and had a career, since some addicts have maintained their career before.

Also, for your consideration, Top 5 Things Created While High. MLB Star Dock Ellis apparently had a nice history of pitching while intoxicated, and Freud apparently used cocaine to inspire psychoanalysis. Not saying it's the "right" thing to do, just saying that it's possible. Dunno if Jim Morrison was an "addict" but he could have been while still keeping up the music game. He was known to be quite unruly on stage, after all.
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:47 AM   #30
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Above all we have to test this information - about Crick etc. There too many such anecdotes.
I assume famous people can use drugs as many other people. Freud could use cocaine, but nobody told he was an addict.
A man who used drugs and a man who couldn't live without drugs different from each other. We all sometimes drink beer or wine but we are not alcoholics. There is difference.
A man who made career could use drugs, but couldn't use drugs every day. It's impossible. Such man couldn't sing, couldn't remember melody and lyrics.
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Re: Was Jim Morrison burned out at the time of his death?

You are joking. Music is chalk full of addicts who continued to perform, remember melody and lyrics. Jimmy Page and Kurt Cobain are two that spring to mind who were addicted to heroin, which is considered one of the harshest drugs.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:05 AM   #32
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And if Morrison wasn't addict, he could die incidently, because of heart attack. Hence he didn't burn out, of cause. He was 27 years only and could create many new music and poetry.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:07 AM   #33
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Re: Was Jim Morrison burned out at the time of his death?

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You are joking. Music is chalk full of addicts who continued to perform, remember melody and lyrics. Jimmy Page and Kurt Cobain are two that spring to mind who were addicted to heroin, which is considered one of the harshest drugs.
I'm sure you're correct but Cobain might not be the best example to make your case.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:10 AM   #34
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Page and Cobain could be addicts. I dunno were they or not, but Led Zeppelin - correct me, if I make a mistake - had long breaks between albums and concert tours. We can't say it about Morrison. He really worked hard.
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:17 AM   #35
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troggy, what do you think about Cobain and Morrison? Could they be addicts or not?
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Old 08-07-2008, 11:23 AM   #36
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troggy, what do you think about Cobain and Morrison? Were they addicts or not?
Probably, not that I really care.
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