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Old 08-21-2007, 12:20 PM   #1
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Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

I learned oodles about Ringo in my last, 'Whats the deal with...' thread, now I wanna move onto Charlie Watts. Ive heard that he's just an outstanding jazz drummer, but Ive only heard him with the Stones. When I see him play with the Stones, he looks completely bored, and its fair enough to say that 99% of the songs from RS are not challenging to 99% of drummers, then you play it over and over for 30 years.....
Whats the deal?
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Old 08-21-2007, 12:38 PM   #2
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Re: Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

The Stones are a rock band, not a jazz band. I don't see having "challenging" drumming as a necessity in rock music. Often what you don't play is as important as what you do play. The Stones rock solid back beat is one of the reasons for their longevity IMO.

As for looking bored, he just has one of those faces.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:03 PM   #3
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I don't see having "challenging" drumming as a necessity in rock music.
Its not a necessity, but for drummers, like myself, we like to something different than a constant 4/4. If you repeat that too often, drummers wonder if thats all you can do. Having said that, I know that RS's emphasis is on Mick and to a lesser extent, Keith.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:15 PM   #4
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Re: Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

To me it's the song that matters most. Stones songs don't lend themselves to a lot of showey drumming.

Fun fact: Watts once punched out Mick for calling him "My drummer". "Don't ever call me your drummer" Charlie told him "you're my singer."

Allegedly.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:23 PM   #5
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Re: Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

From Wikipedia...

Watts married Shirley Ann Shepherd, whom he had met before the band had its first big hit; they are still together. They had one daughter, Seraphina Watts, born in 1968.

Still married to the same lady he was with even before the Stones hit it big. Gotta have tons of respect for that.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:24 PM   #6
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Re: Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

Charlie is my favorite drummer in all of rock n roll. We have been here before and went around and around. So he isn't very showy! Who cares? He is rock solid and his time is untouchable. The guy never misses a beat. As for always looking bored, I agree with Roser, he has always looked that way. Just one of those faces. Obviously the other Stones think a lot of them. Keith has said that it's Charlie's band and they will stop when Charlie has had enough.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:50 PM   #7
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Re: Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

this is not a Charlie-Hit peice.
I brought up that he looks bored only because I wonder if he'd rather be playing something else.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:11 PM   #8
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Re: Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

Maybe he's thinking about how much he's making per snare hit.
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:13 PM   #9
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then the little f'er should be laughing in hysterics!
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Old 08-21-2007, 02:20 PM   #10
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Re: Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

Charlie Watts is great...one of my favorite drummers.



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When I see him play with the Stones, he looks completely bored
I hear ya, Edog...but, I'd just say he looks serious about his business,
rather than bored.
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Old 08-21-2007, 08:07 PM   #11
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Re: Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

I have 'Warm and Tender' from Charlie Watts on disc and its mellow but good.

Anyways, I love Charlies drumming and I put him right up there with my man Ringo as being one of my favorites and most tasteful drummers ever in rock history.

Just play for the song man, just play for the song.
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Old 08-21-2007, 09:59 PM   #12
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Re: Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

Cool – a Charlie Watts thread.

Charlie is a favorite of mine also. He’s solid as a rock and, like Ringo, he throws in some great fills if you take the time to listen to him. His real love does seem to be jazz. I know he has a jazz group of his own that plays gig when he’s between Stones stuff. I have a CD he did with Jim Keltner (another drum great) a couple of years back.
Charlie has a great blues feel, and he can rock. One of my favs is his playing on the Stones’, “19th Nervous Breakdown”. And I love the way he swings on “Tumbling Dice” and “Let It Bleed”. I also have to mention the classic, simple but effective riff he does coming into “Honky Tonk Woman”. He’s a very “tasty” drummer.

I agree with all who said that that look on his face is just Charlie’s look. He is the anchor of the Stones. They did fine without Bill Wyman, but if Charlie ever left, forget it.
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:08 PM   #13
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Re: Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

Hehe, I read that Mick Jagger played the drum tracks for A Bigger Bang while Charlie Watts was away on health concerns, and then when he got back he had to rerecord all of it 'cause it was bad...
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:29 PM   #14
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Re: Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

Listen to his drumming on 2000 Man. How does he do those beats?
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Old 08-21-2007, 11:11 PM   #15
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Listen to his drumming on 2000 Man. How does he do those beats?
I think its just a different time signature, but I cant tell you what it would be for the life of me.
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Re: Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

Another tune that comes to mind is 'Start Me Up'. I've heard other drummers say that Charlie actually messed up in the beginning of that tune. I say no and just admire how he abused that 4/4 time signature. I would have never of thought of that.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:08 AM   #17
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He always lifts up on the Hi Hat with his right hand before he hits the snare with his left.
I saw that, and as a young drummer I thought that thats what you were supposed to do. But then, I didnt see anyone else do that.
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Re: Whats the deal with Charlie Watts?

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He always lifts up on the Hi Hat with his right hand before he hits the snare with his left.
I saw that, and as a young drummer I thought that thats what you were supposed to do. But then, I didnt see anyone else do that.
Don Henley's the only other drummer I can remember seeing do that. I'm not a drummer, but I don't understand it...it looks weird to me.
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